Platform

B3K92HaCQAAg80qPictured: LA Times Reporter injured by St. Louis Citizens concerned about his Freedom of the Press

One positive note before the negative:  Wife of St. Louis Cardinal’s owner, Ira Dewitt, has volunteered to pay for Jamyla Bolden’s funeral.  This action has drawn the scorn of some BLM related groups who apparently wanted to take credit for this fundraising.


The last several days have not been particularly good for St. Louis.  Last night saw a much more minor series of protests in reference to the shooting of Mansur Ballbey (spelling changes between articles so apologies if incorrect) by St. Louis City tactical officers during a Search Warrant execution.  I say “minor” because the night previous looked a tad bit more like:

tear-gas-st.-louis ct-st-louis-shooting-protest-20150820 structurefirestlAnyway, things may be heating up again as a press conference today by St. Louis City Police Chief, Sam Dotson, revealed that the autopsy of Mr. BallBey indicated that he was shot in the back.  To compare, last year Vonderitt Myers was also shot in the back despite forensic data indicating that he shot at a St. Louis City Officer prior to Myers’ death.

The Ferguson Twitter Brigade has taken this new revelation to contradict the first story released by City Police stating that Mr. Ballbey was pointing a gun at tactical police when they shot him a few days ago.

They also still believe that the Vonderitt Myers’ shooting was a cover up as well in spite of forensic evidence to the contrary.  Granted, how could a person possibly be running away while also pointing a gun at someone and still be in a position to be shot in the back by officers chasing him?biker_shooting_back_pistol_04 It boggles the mind.


 

In other news, the Ferguson Twitter Brigade has released a platform for Criminal Justice Reform:


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This entry was a bit more unorganized than I prefer but I’m short on time today.

WS

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5 thoughts on “Platform

  1. The deceased seems to have been a member of the Moorish Science Temple (or Moorish Temple of Science), in which case it would be Ball-Bey

    Call me a cock-eyed optimist for this and I won’t argue, but I am somewhat encouraged by the fact that the St. Louis Today (St. Louis Post-Dispatch?) interviewed a a University of Missouri-St. Louis criminologist who points out that, “The issue isn’t where the round hits, it’s what the perceived threat was at the time the officer fired.” and that, “If it was reasonable for these officers to believe he was a threat, then shots in the back mean nothing. If it’s unreasonable, then he shouldn’t have been shot, but we don’t know without knowing all the information.”

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/man-killed-by-st-louis-police-died-from-gunshot-in/article_7b6d7427-b5b6-5625-b9f3-e5d7fbb33d17.html

    I don’t remember reading anything like as sane this early in the Michael Brown case, although I mostly remember reading St. Louis Today — some of those articles are on this site, not sure how they’re connected. The article I linked to is nowhere near balanced, of course, but it’s a step in the right direction from the general support of the Hands Up routine I was seeing a year ago. And, as you can see from the link, when I first read it, the headline was “Man Killed by St. Louis Police Died of Gunshot in Back”, now it’s “St. Louis police chief asks community to be patient as officer-involved shooting is investigated.” Perhaps another step away from the “Black Lives Matter/Cops Are Killers” position.

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  2. I read the platform for “reform” on the web today–I”ll post the comments I made on it elsewhere here later on. Generally, there are a couple of good points, like reform of the courts/fines, but much of it it not practical if we are to have effective policing, in my opinion.

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  3. Here is the comment I referred to yesterday. I left this on my Facebook page with a pointer to an article about this “platform” [http://www.vox.com/2015/8/21/9188729/police-black-lives-matter-campaign-zero].

    “During an interview on NPR yesterday [Thursday, 8/20/2015], the person speaking for this movement was asked why the movement didn’t have clear policy goals, and the reply was that the movement expected politicians to come up with the policy goals. I thought that was a strange answer. It’s never a good idea, in my opinion, to let someone else set your agenda for you.

    So, we finally have idea of what at least some portion of this movement is asking for [based on http://www.vox.com/2015/8/21/9188729/police-black-lives-matter-campaign-zero%5D. How realistic some of it is, I’m not sure. I personally think that some of these proposed policy initiatives are not well thought out as to their ultimate consequences. Some of them sound like they propose less policing. When police in Baltimore recently appeared to pull back after a shooting incident there, at least one black activist complained about that!

    So as it is said, be careful what you wish for.

    I think teaching police to better handle non-violent situations, and to recognize people with mental health health issues are good ideas. However, once guns [and other weapons] are pointed at officers and/or civilians, the situation becomes dangerous, and those perpetrators must be prevented from harming others by whatever means is effective. Perhaps it isn’t always necessary to shoot back, but then, the police need other effective means to counter these attacks. I’m not sure what those methods might be.

    I do agree that “policing for profit” needs to change radically. That said, if, as in St. Ann, MO, there are people doing 70 miles per hour in a 60 mile per hour speed limit zone, I think the police should stop and ticket those drivers all day long, because such that’s down right dangerous. And I think those fines should be large, to try and give drivers an incentive not to do it again. The report was that this speed trap effort had reduced accidents along I-70 by Lambert Airport by a large percentage. That’s a good thing.”

    Winston Smith, perhaps you would like to weigh in on all of this. Because of your experience as a police officer, I am very much interested in hearing your point of view.

    Thanks!

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  4. The new campaign is aptly named “Campaign Zero.” While I will concede that there are areas of reform with which we could all agree, the source is not credible. It is an extension of their first petulant “demands” as they rioted in the streets shamelessly. Nowhere in the site is there any semblance of criminals being responsible for their lives of crime. They expect that lawmakers and LEO are simply going to be bullied into surrending control of police forces to thug rule with federal mandates. Not a single bullet point in that document makes communities safer for all citizens. This, they are learning, is unacceptable to the majority of Americans who follow laws, respect police, and do NOT believe in giving criminals carte blanche. Campaign Zero is their attempt to force their misguided racist aspirations into the local, state, and national political arena. However one sugarcoats the reality, BLM is nothing more than a #CriminalRightsMovement.

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